(Jesus initiating a man – Source)


            In this article I want to approach the subject of Jesus as a “savior” and his connection with the esoteric aspect of Son of God, as well as the role in the group of apostles that followed him.

            It is well known that in Christianity, Jesus is viewed in quite a literal sense as a unique Son of God, who came in a human form to save humankind from the sins and especially from the Original Sin done by the mythical Adam and Eve. At the same time, Christians view him as a mediator between them and God and pray to him as to a messenger of the Father; his position is not of a teacher for most people, but more of an incarnated God – a supreme god.

            Observing this from an esoteric point of view, things have a totally difference sense. And it is logical to do so since Jesus was an initiate very dedicated to his own path, and his role cannot be truly understood if not getting into detail about his esoteric aspects. At his time, this man realized in himself a detachment from his own will and his own Ego, so great that he could dedicate his entire being in the devotion for the Creator, Source or Father as he named it. Such a form of unconditional love permitted him to find in himself, as a human, what the human collective held for a long time: a form of energy so restrictive and so limited that people in general could no longer surpass it, no matter how much they tried.

            From an esoteric point of view, humankind is a collective that evolved simultaneously, no matter how great are the differences between people. This simultaneous evolution is found in the collective energy on different planes (mental, emotional) and everyone profits from what others realized at some point of their lives and according each one’s potential. Ever since the time of Jesus, humankind has come to a form of isolation and limitation in this collective that people could no longer surpass. Everyone in the world was submitted to this limitation, in a lesser or greater amount. Jesus also found this limitation through his meditation. He felt it as a burden that has been kept in the collective for a long time. But it can’t be attributed to a couple of primordial people (Adam and Eve), but to the entire human collective from ancient times. As each man wanted to ‘sink’ more in the attractions and pleasures of the material world, this limitation gathered greater force, like a web that squeezed tighter around man. Jesus understood that this great obstacle could only be dissolved through a total submission of his own will to the Creator, so that through this act and life style he could conclusively mark the energy of the human collective and lift up that obstacle so that anyone who wanted to surpass it, could actually realize it. What a man does in himself, is an achievement for the entire humankind, no matter if people are aware of it or not.

            This self initiation that Jesus realized did not change the world at all. People have remained ignorant and limited in their actions, but in contradistinction to the period before Jesus, they were given opened ways to greater inner realizations. Such changes happened in the life of every great teacher, who lifted the “obstacle” a little higher. Thinking in the Jewish mindset of his period, Jesus “liberated” the ancestors (Adam, Eve and all the humans until then) from Hell, that is to say the autolimitation that they all had to endure. But here we are not referring to the idea that their souls were imprisoned somewhere, but to the idea that their endeavors could not surpass the threshold of liberation and total communion with God in they way that Jesus succeeded. But he worked with what the other great teachers before him did. He had a special connection with Gautama Buddha. His emotional body energy, so greatly developed through his meditative life and the realization of the Middle Path, was kept in the collective energy and contributed a lot in Jesus’ development. This idea can be found in greater detail in the book “According to Luke” by Rudolf Steiner, where the author calls the emotional body as “astral body” in his own definition.

            As I was saying, Jesus realized through his life a contribution to the collective energy of humankind which did not exist until his years. What made him so special so he was able to do that ? Once in a long while, there appear the so-called “avatars” or representations of Divinity (from the sanskrit “avatar”, which signifies the intentional descent of a god or Supreme Divinity from the Heavens to Earth) which gradually make some kind of change of great proportions in the collective energy of humanity. But there is not a single avatar. To understand the idea, the avatar is the transposition of the Creator’s power in a certain group of beings (in our case, humans). Thus, the avatar is manifested through more humans in diverse parts of history. And thus it was manifested through various wise-men that brought something completely new in the general human collective, through people like Krishna, Buddha, Jesus and others. In a way, they are one and the same avatar, manifested through human forms and different personalities. The similarities between them are owned to this fact, though we cannot say that it is the Creator/Divinity that is reincarnated, but a specific form (a “part”) of It. We cannot however make a stereotype about avatars, in order to be sure that it will always be respected, like others have done and still do in our modern times. The person of an avatar through which it was manifested in our world will not be reincarnated. Thus Jesus and the others like him will not come back on this world, but what acted through them will come back. This is why Jesus and other initiates and teachers over time said they will come back “a second time”. They were not referring to their person, but to the Divine Principle in them.

            The avatar as a principle can manifest not only through a single man but also through a small collective, that has different functions. Why ? Besides the motives that we probably cannot understand, in the human world a single man cannot have the multiple functions that a collective has. As such, the avatar principle can also manifest in groups of people, and will manifest at each one in his own way, in various directions. From an esoteric point of view, we cannot gather pertinent and verifiable proof through authentic initiatic procedures that could support the reincarnation of the avatar in a different human body. That person has played its role and the principle that gave him form has retired. The elements gathered and realized in that human-avatar, after his death, will be dissolved and reintegrated in the energy of the human collective, thus transferring further what the human-avatar realized with himself. Any man can beneficiate of these elements which he can access, in a greater or lesser measure. It is difficult for a common man to understand this, manly because of the incapacity to detach from the Ego.

            This is one of the important reasons for which the affirmation of a second coming of Jesus was taken literally in Christianity. In other words, the Son of God – the avatar – the manifestation of the Creator in a specific form in the maximum parameters of that form (in our case, the maximum human potential), comes back at a certain amount of time on this planet and “refreshes” the energy of the human collective on various planes, in various ways, so that the entire human race can reach greater levels in his own spiritual development. And, as I said, it is not obligatory to do it in the form of a single man.

            Getting back on the subject of Jesus, we see in the Gospels that the apostles have understood him in different ways. As a teacher with many disciples, Jesus initiated them in different ways according to each one’s personality, and the filters of their personalities showed the Teacher in specific ways to each apostle. We can however see a common attitude of the apostles: their prayers were not addressed to Jesus directly, but to the Father; they did not worship their Teacher. In fact, even Jesus taught them to pray to the Father, a major example being the prayer “Our Father”. Jesus was not for a second the central figure of their prayers. This attitude of the apostles has also been kept after the departure (i’m not referring to some fantastical rise to the sky) of Jesus.

            Finally, esoterically speaking, Jesus did not have any reason to make himself the central figure of a religion or of a cult, from the simple fact that he wasn’t promoting himself. Always, his faith urged others to direct their eyes to the Father/Creator with more love and sincere dedication, not through fear and dogmatic rules that robbed the human soul of any form of free communication with the Divine that is inside every man. Jesus understood the fact that the Father, in His omnipotence, doesn’t need slaves who respect Him through fear and blindness (as it was said in the Old Law of the jews), but needs loving “sons” who understand that they are a part of Him. Thus, it is obvious that the entire human life is an experimentation of the various forms of the Creator, that are in everything. His energy compiles the whole Creation, including ourselves, every cell and part of our entire human being. We and the rest of the Creation form the Body of God, in which the Creator manifests His essence. So, what real need would the Creator have, when his Creation is in fact a part of Himself ?…

            To understand Jesus as an initiate and manifestation of the avatar principle, means we must try to udnerstand a very complex process that is found not only in humankind but in the rest of the Creation. Through Jesus we must see a reflection of a small part of what the Father can be in Man, as Jesus himself said that anyone who walks his path will realize things as great as his or even greater. If we view him in a distant way from our own being, not only do we steal the right and chance to ever be as realized as him, but we also estrange from the gift that the Creator has given every man: the gift that we can be as perfect on Earth as He is in His manifestations in Creation.


In this part I return to the subject of Jesus’ life, and this time I want to view this subject from the perspective of his initiatic aspects. In other words, I want to talk about Jesus as an initiate.

This perspective differs from the Christian views from the simple fact that Jesus, in this religion, is considered a kind of semi-human being, or god rather than a man in the most part. And I’m not referring only to what it is said about him in the Church clergy, but also to the way that common Christians view him; those who have little or no knowledge of his initiatic way of life. From this point of view, Jesus is a stranger for the majority of those who consider him a very important aspect of their so-called spiritual lives.

The main initiatic aspects of his life were clearly observed since his youth, as it can be read in the New Testament about his childhood and the incident at the Temple when he was 12 years old. However, I do not consider the Bible as an efficient source of documentation. My sources are of Akashic nature but not only. The difference is that in a document, the authenticity is based on the actual “scribe’s” capacity of correctly dating the document and determining its origins, as well as the reproduction of in a modern language of the original terms, keeping the original significations. In the study of the Akashic Records, the authenticity of the information depends only on the researcher’s competence to interpret and correctly use this source of information.

Getting back to the life of Jesus, from the Records we can observe that his initiatic life began in childhood, approximately at the age of 8 when his vital body was getting his corresponding form, a vital body that will get to be developed and extended to support the coming events. What continued to develop in him was the connection between his Ego and the profound energy and omnipresence of the Father. Normally, man has a barrier in his conscience given by the powerful fixation of his attention in matter, and thus this barrier gets bigger until it gets to a point in life (usually around the age of 22) that it mostly breaks the connection between the Ego and the spiritual worlds. Though this doesn’t mean that man breaks away from the Spirit, the foundations of life in matter are fixed to that age so strongly in the man’s conscience (that until then didn’t pay attention to the spiritual worlds) that the barrier becomes very strong. This blockage did not happen to Jesus, because of the energetic load that governed his life since his first years.

Since childhood he listened to that impulse of getting closer to the Spirit, even if the guidance from his parents or his people did not necessarily support that impulse. The knowledge he gathered through the interpretation of this conscious connection was mixing with what he was learning from the Jewish belief, though many of the jewish teachings did not correspond with his own discoveries. As the most part of the priests were following in a dogmatic and mechanical way even the jewish knowledge, without knowing its original sense through direct experiences, Jesus was a “stranger” among them (when he started to talk to them). Still, his wisdom as a young man was surprising some people, while to others it had the effect of making them feel small, humiliated by the fact that a child knows those things that at that time were reserved only for the high ranking priests. Those longing for sincere knowledge (few at number) stayed close to Jesus and listened to him. Others were banishing him from their minds through all kinds of excuses. But the young man was developing that connection with the omnipresent energy of the Father even greater.

I do not want to make a history of Jesus’ travels, thus I will remain talking about the teachings and initiations he got from these travels. The Calling that he felt around the age of 17 was intensely lived, disturbing his thoughts for quite a long period of time. This Calling was urging his to leave his land and search for another form of teaching, another place where he could absorb and understand more clearly the energy of the Father within him and around him. The atmosphere in the jewish territories was suffocating and too rigid for him to live in a peaceful communion with himself. He did not pray in the temples but retired in nature, until he got to make long walks in the desert, which was renowned for the thieves that were roaming there. But Jesus’ calling was too powerful to listen to fear. Although he did find the fear in himself, going so far from his people, he chose to entirely put his faith in the Father. He could not think of this belief to be only partial, incomplete or based on fear, as the jewish law taught him. He wanted to be able to put in words that connection and to understand it, beyond any another teaching that he so rigidly received in his youth.

A strong change of situation (as seen by his close friends) was the moment when he decided to go to Egypt, using the caravan routes. It was known since ancient times that Egypt was a strong cultural center, full of archives of knowledge that were not restricted to what the jewish leaders were giving access to the people. Also, a great prophet or the jews, Moses, has his roots in Egypt, where he got all his knowledge. The Egyptian temples had something that could explain to young Jesus about his own connection with the Father. But he did not stop in Egypt, but came back to Palestine and then went back on the round even further, to Zoroaster’s Persia and then to India, a very distant territory and not known to him. His travels taught him much, choosing to believe that every event, every failure or success that came in his path were sent by the omnipresent Father. When a seemingly destructive or unpleasant event happened to him, he only saw a temporary  reorganization of things in his life or a necessary change that was to guide him to a different direction.

So great was this faith of his, that his paths lead him to get in contact with all sorts of teachings that would detail what he was actually living. Yet, nothing was explaining that connection of his, for all the writings were of somebody else’s knowledge. He observed that even though the experiences of those who wrote the books or talked to him were similar to his to a certain extent, they were not the same. What he received from them was a borrowed information that was only giving him clues and indications, not an explanation of the truth. Behind all the rituals and dogmas that he met in his journeys, he observed one of the most important things in his initiatic life: if you want to know something, you can only do so by directly living it, and you cannot truly know it unless you accept it. In other words, you cannot truly know something unless you truly love it. We’re talking about the attitude of  the entire being, not of a single feeling, an attitude that can include in his conscience even the conscience and existence of the researched subject. This teaching came to stand at the base of his entire spiritual life, and as the subject of his research was the Father Himself, he realized that he cannot know Him unless he accepts deep inside his soul the entire existence that the Father fills. His devotion to the Creator made him concentrate his full view on the Father, that was everything and all around.

Only then he managed to make the first important step to knowing the Creator in all his perceptible forms. He was no longer putting conditions: I want to accept this because it exists, but not this. No matter that, as a man, he did not want to accept the presence of anyone in his life (for example, those who wanted to hurt him), gradually he exceeded this state and got to accept any manifestation of the Father in his life. When he realized this in an unconditional way, only then he felt truly free in his communion with the Father. His human condition showed him the fact that every man lives those feelings of doubt, fear because of lack of knowledge or other similar things, and even more. And that it is a reality of every man, no matter if he’s jew, syrian, egyptian, arab or indian, that we are all born from the energy of the Father. He realized that only by living like this he could inspire another life to follow his example, even if the blockages of the other people were so powerful that for most of them was going to escort them to the grave. Jesus understood that strong connection of his and completely dedicated to it, permitting him a development of his own being beyond the limits that were dominating the other people so rigidly at that time.

However, lets not understand that absolutely all people of that time were restricted from realizing to overcome their limits. Only those who dedicated their entire lives and worked almost completely away from the world were able to gradually liberate themselves from the encrypted blockages in their beings at the participation of the energetic human collective. But Jesus, through his teaching and his work, managed to ease this liberation for the common people.

This is what a true initiate is. Not only a man who knew and lived a lot, but also one who works for the entire humankind, on the clear idea that he is part of a collective from which he cannot separate from. Though many such initiates did not necessarily operate at such a big social level, the verbal communication (written or spoken) with people was not obligatory. Everything that a man realizes with himself, actually realizes with the entire energy of the human collective of which he is made as a human. And this is transmitted to everyone who is receptive and who acts the same. What was left to discover was how to live this connection in a completely conscious way. This was realized by Jesus through his continuous meditations/prayers in which he was giving more of his own Ego in exchange for the attention offered to the Universal Balance, that was known to him as the “Will of the Father”.

His entire dedication, mostly away from the people who got to search for him and his teachings, made him live in a form of conscience in which the Avatar energy (as I described it earlier) could manifest in his being in a greater measure. Here stands one of his advice about humans: the body and the being of man are the Temple of God; everyone must clean them of the useless things in order to be able to welcome the Father in themselves – this conscious communion was not imposed in some way, thus it was left at the man’s decision to realize it or not.

Jesus realized another thing. Even though he managed to take his being to a level of consciousness far greater than what was met around him, he did not forget the fact that he was still a man. Nothing changed in this sense. That is why he understood that his successes were not unique at him, but could be realized by any man who chose to know and manifest his potential in the way that he did. He seen around him suffering and fearful people with the care for tomorrow, while others were drowning in riches and almost did not know what suffering meant. But he knew that everyone was part of the Creator, equal by birth, and that all those material etiquettes were only passing conditions of a life from which many was to learn. Everything is finally lost, death takes everything, but cannot take away what man realized deep within himself. Thus, he also realized that we are only visitors here on Earth. We receive a body, a life, an environment in which we learn and evolve, but we eventually need to renounce everything and get back to Father, in a different form.

He came to see that every man has the spark of the Father, which shined stronger or weaker, hidden or brought to the surface by each man’s Ego. The decisions that man makes permits that spark to govern his life more or less. Jesus figured that the Ego must be understood and modeled for the permission of the Divine in each man to come to the surface, but that this was only realizable in the earthly life. At that time many thought they will obtain that liberation, sometimes called “Eternal Life”, after death, if in life they paid their taxes to the temple and made their sacrifices and kept the traditions. But Jesus knew what a great deceit that was, to believe that some material gestures can save the human soul. If they did not obtain that “Eternal Life” in their time lived here, they were not going to obtain it after death either.

Throughout his journeys, Jesus also understood that no matter what name is given to the Father, it is not what defines Him. Each man defined the Creator by the way he chose to manifest in his life. If the man chooses to live in fear and rigidity, the Father cannot offer him all that he is destined, because He offered freedom to man. But this freedom has a big price which many usually don’t understand. They don’t understand what laws stand at the base of this freedom and get to use it so incorrect that they don’t even realize it exists. Jesus noticed that no matter what names have been given to the Creator by the people he kept meeting, the honesty with which they were communicating with the Father was all that mattered. But that honesty was masked by all kinds of images and roles that man created in the absence of the true knowledge about Him. He invents and hold on to those roles because he doesn’t know how to understand his true nature, he doesn’t know how to be free of false identities. And after years and years, he gets to believe that there is no other identity than the illusory which he created.

Jesus as an initiate completed the knowledge that lead to the dismissal of that illusion, though what he transmitted in the collective human energy but also what was kept in the Gospels and the apocryphal writings about his life and teachings. He was not someone more special in the eyes of the Father. The fact that he did not see himself that way opened the gates of his soul and mind to the communion that he had with the Creator. He got to see the multiple forms that surrounded him, seen or unseen. And he got to understand those forms and observe that the power with which the Father ruled all, was a power that he also had inside him through the presence of the Father inside him, as in the case of any other man.

As “parts” of the Creator, we are also co-creators. But in order to use this potential, we must first understand what this liberty of action means. Every illusion, every mask, every conditioning or auto-limitation only lead to the strengthening of the barrier that blocks man’s communion with the Father.


Now I want to present few details about the initiation that Jesus offered to his disciples in Palestine.

In the Bible there is few information about the way that Jesus prepared his disciples from an initiatic point of view; something easy to understand from the fact that the writers of the Bible did not want this information to be of priority to the believers. Thus, the aspects of initiation were probably not available to many because they were not kept written in any public document.

However, from the Akashic Records we can observe the initatic aspect of the connections between Jesus and his disciples, clear enough in order to present a few ideas. First, we must understand that the initiation (in this case) has a profound sense and it is a phenomenon realized on a long period of time, with great care and accuracy. Each disciple had a certain personality and a certain way of being that made him see what Jesus offered him, in a particular way. Each one interpreted and understood his messages in a different way. That is why the first step in the initiation was that Jesus had to look in each one’s soul in order to figure out what exactly of his teaching could be understood by them.

Initiation is a profound phenomenon, that touches man’s being and opens gates that cannot be closed no matter what that man does. All he can do is to loose the access to them, but not to close them back. Then, the initiation is a means of realizing a connection between the disciple and the teacher, through which a great part of the ‘message’ is being transmitted.

In the connection that Jesus had with his disciples, he had to act differently with each of them, and this lead to different messages. He knew that only a certain amount of his teaching could be understood by his disciples, so he gave them exactly what he observed that they could assimilate. Besides this, although it is said that there were twelve apostles, the closest ones to him were actually five, who greatly dedicated themselves to spirituality. The others were still trapped in their material lives and thu still had certain doubts about this path.

One of the five apostles was Judas, the ‘traitor’, who until he met Jesus had learned many things from the schools in Persia and Egypt, and so he had a initiatic grounding different from all the others. Judas was the only one that didn’t dedicate to his teacher because of the things that Jesus showed to the apostles; Judas followed Jesus’ teachings because he saw with his own eyes what and who Jesus was, and this is why he was quite ignored by the other apostles. He was acting differently, he spoke differently and understood Jesus differently because he was free from the Jewish teachings which constituted an important factor in the understanding that the disciples had.

The aspects that Judas observed surpassed the potential of understanding that the other apostles had, especially because he was not attached to his teacher and didn’t necessarily view him as a special being like the others saw him. This is why it is said that Jesus told him certain things that, if the other apostles found out, they would’ve killed Judas with stones.

In the case of his disciples from Palestine, Jesus confronted with the fact that they were raised in a certain faith and had a certain language through which they expressed this faith. First he had to help them exceed this limitation and make them open themselves through devotion to him. This opening facilitated the realization of some bridges of transmission at the level of mental and emotional body which could, at necessity, surpass the power of their ego.

But Jesus could not put into them what their consciousness could not process in that life, so there remained a lot that his disciples could not understand and haven’t received from their teacher. His actions were in accordance with their receptivity, and this is why he said that those who will follow his path will do things as great as his or even greater. In other words, “greater things” needed students with an understanding more developed than that of his disciples. I don’t want to say that what his followers learned was too little. But the purpose of the so-called miraculous demonstrations with directly proportional with the capacity of understanding of his disciples, as well as the capacity of those were witnessed those acts. This is explained by Jesus many times, while telling his close ones that the ill were put in the path of the Father exactly because it was needed to demonstrate that his teachings were authentic and not inventions.

Another aspect of the apostolic initiation of which I want to talk about is the activation of the so-called “Holy Spirit” in the disciples. Only when the mental and emotional body was flexible enough and free from blockages it was possible to transmit the energy of the Avatar (of which I spoke at “Jesus – Son of God”), and not only through Jesus but through his most loyal apostles. In other words, their power did not belong to them (as it didn’t belong to Jesus himself) but it was a power that they used and transmitted. But in order to use this power, their entire being had to be transformed, step by step, so that they were not “overtensioned” like a device that works on 12 V and is connected to 220 V. This process was realized by Jesus by the gradual transmission of his teachings on a mental and emotional level. Their opening and devotion were essential, because without them the message would have been distorted by their Egos.

Only when these conditions were fulfilled could the influence of the Avatar be delivered to the people. In the Jewish teachings, the Holy Spirit was one with the Creator’s power of action, or the Word. Thus, this is how the so-called Baptism was formed, through which the energy of the Christ was offered to other people. But through the ritual of Baptism, the child is not given a gift, but a chance. But its essence was distorted by the Church over time and its initiatic essence was modified and so it deviated from the teaching of Jesus (and the practice of John “the Baptist”).

The apostolic initiation accentuated in each of the disciples various aspects that weren’t active in them until the meeting with Jesus. Their activity, although distorted by the interpretation given in the Gospels by the Church, had a strong effect in Jesus’ life, influencing the collective human energy. We must understand and remember the fact that they did not want to create a religion. There was no doctrine that had to be blindly respected by the believers. There is no Old Testament (with that selfish and vengeful god) to be followed and this is why the acts of Jesus and his apostles created the New Testament. It wasn’t called “new” because it was recent, but because it had a new teaching, very different from that which the Jews followed until then.

Finally I want to say that the most detailed aspects of the apostolic initiation must be viewed and lived directly, not just to be read. Considering the fact that the term “initiation” is so much discussed in many sources, having different meanings, people tend to standardize it and thus many misunderstandings take place from the interpretation of the initiatic aspect in the lives of the apostles. This apostolic initiation is not what people sell nowadays. It had and still has a mysterious character available only to those who follow the true esoteric path to this spiritual changing.


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Your subject is dealing with the three points mentioned: Jesus as "Savior", Connection with the esoteric concept of "Son of God" and the role Jesus played in the group of the apostles that followed him. This is an attempt to both challenge your conjecture of Jesus; and, to openly converse with you regarding the subject in a scholarly fashion.

First of all, I stand to say that "Jesus" is God--the God of the tetragrammaton personified. He was that "light" that was spoken of in the creation who have come forth clothed in the "coats of skin" that was given to Adam and Eve who lost their dominion, but "Jesus", never losing his dominion,came forth to take all vengeance on all the works of the "Serpent" to free the souls in Sheol and on earth. Such a warfare is the purpose for the sixth day which have been ongoing since the days of Adam in his bloodline and priesthood--who originated from the God who is the Tetragrammaton. Also, this man made the apostles to be "sons of God"--yet being a fleshly and humble man.(Only God himself has the power to do this.)

Secondly, "Jesus" is servant. David testified in spirit and said, "Lo I come in the volume of the book, it written of me to do thy will". Jesus came forth to do the will of the Father--as a Son who had glory with the Father since before the foundation of the world.

Third, you bring up the "initiation" of Jesus. Actually, it is us who are supposed to be initiates and he is to be our "Master". Concerning the childhood of "Jesus", he was brought up according the law of Moses amongst the priests and those who were in the royal bloodline. The term "initiation" gives reference to the "circumcision"--which means to have a heart to do the will of the Father.

Fourth, you said, "greater inner realizations". It should be noted that all knowledge comes from the Father. Also, there were more so called "initiates" than just Jesus. In fact, there were some who knew exactly who "Jesus" was and what he testified of and still would not acknowledge him as "Master". These same people were the "conspirators" who teamed up with Judas Iscariot to crucify him, and if I am not mistaking, they put a sign above him which, in English, read, "Jesus, King of the Jews".

Fifth, you said, "what acted through him will come back". I am here to say that we are in the last days. The prophet testified that in the last days God would pour out his Spirit upon all flesh.

Sixth, Jesus is not an avatar. He is both "Son of God" and "Son of man". He came to "fulfill" the law of Moses, the psalms, and the prophets--so it is written.

Seventh, Jesus initiated all of his disciples the same way. Also, more to your point, the disciples baptized in the name of their "Master".

Eighth, Jesus was very much promoting himself. Jesus is the "Logos". Yes, Jesus did teach the "Old Law" of the Jews. So did "John the Baptist" teach the "law of Moses". How else would John have discerned "The Messiah"?

Ninth, you said, "What real need would the Creator have when his Creation is part of himself?" All of creation follows the commandments of God (of the tetragrammaton). Man does not follow this commandment and is therefore not apart of the Creator until he decides to submit to the "Master".

Tenth, Jesus said to his disciples, "...greater works shall ye do than these...". Works=Torah=Instructions from God

Eleven, you said, "Modern day Christians acknowledge Jesus as God and not as a man". I encourage you to pray that all men come into the knowledge of the "Great Arcanum". It is a known fact that their pastors and ministers in their churches have not taught them their liberty in the "laws of Moses" and all manner of doctrine pertaining to the "Great Arcanum".

Modern day Jewish teachings had no effect on Jesus. Also, Jesus is the "Messiah" and "The Chief Corner Stone". Furthermore, Jesus taught to do after the teachings of the Pharisees but to be aware of their false traditions.

Jesus was greater than all the "high ranking priests". Also, there were many people who knew who he was and did not acknowledge him. Instead, these people, conspired against him. "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased."

Jewish law did not teach Jesus to be partial, incomplete, or to have a relationship with God based on fear. The Father said, "This is my Son in whom I am well pleased." The Son said, "I come not to destroy the law, but to fulfill."

The teachings about Jesus going to Egypt or India has no solid proof. Jesus is the "light" mentioned in creation. (What books bear witness that Jesus went to India?)

Also, Jesus was born to die and partake in the battle for souls. As it is written,"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me".

Jesus is the personified image of the Creator. He is the "seed" of Eve. Also, if Jesus was alive today, he would not be just an initiate. He would be "Eyer-Asher-Eyer"--which in some traditions is associated with the grade Ipsissimus.

"Will of the Father"=obedience to the instruction (Torah) given by the Father. "Torah"=This is the "Great Arcanum" of the priesthood and the "first world" that existed before the flood.

The disciples were all "illuminated" by Jesus. (After the resurrection, he taught them all things pertaining to himself. The disciples were made "Sons of God", including Paul and the 70 disciples not mentioned in your post.

Concerning the true church, the true church was in fact a very esoteric and occult assembly. It is my opinion that Jude has testified of a time when we would have to "contend" for the common faith that was once delivered to the saints. I do not know about you or anybody else reading this reply, but I want to know the Father, Son, and The Holy Ghost (who are all one).

Again, as stated in the beginning, this is an attempt to both challenge your conjecture of Jesus; and, to openly converse with you regarding the subject in a scholarly fashion. I hope to receive a reply from you.


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