The Destroyer, also known as God Almighty. The appropriate God of the Chaldeans, familiar with the El God of the Phoenicians. El is known to lead the Hebrews in the desert. This God is familiar with the Jinn, aka the Seraphim. Mmhmm, the burning serpents.

The importance of understanding these all powerful like Yahweh Gods is because they apply to certain individuals that have their place in the Stars. Christ was speaking to a percentage when on His ministry. The same can be said of Muhammad.

When I set food aside, I make reference to all Guardians, Guides, and Gods. I find that the same Source of this Universe is not the same as the Source from my Universe. This God, aka El Shaddai is the most appropriate God of the Draconians. For one, because the Draconians are bent on conquest. One of the definitions of El Shaddai is "destroyer", which is what the Draconians do, conquor.

Before these Draconians could enter this system, they had to create a new race of beings with the feline race Urmah. This race is called the Imdugud. In my case, I'm from Aquila in Tarazed. Before that, i was in Thuban in Draco. Now spiritually, I stay in Alnitak in Orion's Belt, where the Urmah are located. These are the half eagle/half lion race. Also known as the Cherubim or the Griffin. Before I was a Pureblood Seraphim, and El Shaddai is the same God I keep in my prayers.

“They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world,"

(John 17:16).

I'm in the same position, I'm not from this archetype. My race comes to implement their faith. We recognize the Stars, and maneuver through whatever law that this God abides by. Understanding the Dark is what allows me to reach back to my roots. That is why I honor the El Shaddai.

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Comment by Barbelo Luciferus (White Eagle) on December 9, 2018 at 4:37am

lmao draco lols? dark path? once a little boy left pondering on the wind seen a flower floating by and question hid within? as far as i know bro draconians are left field  so thats correct but what is right or left to answer that is bias?

Comment by Quingu on November 23, 2018 at 2:21pm

Ah, that's interesting! I've read that The Ušumgal Council of Nalulkára is in Ursa Major,  so it makes sense. Thanks for the confirmation!

Comment by SL on November 23, 2018 at 10:31am

Definitely you have to go by your own experience and intuition. Whatever resonates with you deep down in your soul. Soul is the best guide we can have.

I have the owl as one of guide/symbol/totem or whatever, it is considered bad omen and or evil in both east and west. Actually have only had Wolf as primary guide in dreams.

Comment by SL on November 23, 2018 at 10:15am

There is nothing really to get back to.  Was just putting in Eastern perspective and thoughts

btw,  this is Draco in the East The seven stars of the Great Bear are the Government—rulers of the sun, moon, and five planets. The palace of the heavenly emperor is bounded by the oval formed of the fifteen stars of Draco,

Comment by Quingu on November 21, 2018 at 12:28pm

It could be as simple as having your eyes opened and understanding both good and evil. This is what I mean by becoming one of the Elohim.

"Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?"

(John 10:34).

Then again, this is all opinion based but you're right, I see myself as ascended without going as far as worshipping myself in a malicious way. In relation to knowing my origin in Draco, it came from meditations with my guides and my Guardian, lucid dreams, and someone reading my Akashic Records. After he had read my Akashic Records, then everything added up.

What Lucifer did, to me, applies to those that had fallen with him. I know that seems obvious, but I had understood that Lucifer was speaking to a percentage just like the message of Christ applied to another percentage. I've come to understand that the left path is most appropriate for me. I work with an Elder Dragon and he knows historical texts like the back of his hand. I've just come to an understanding that I was working against the grain with my mantra and prayers. Instead of praying in Christ's name, or any other figure, I pray in my Guardian's name and spiritually set food aside for him. So in essence, I do practice the Draconian Path and abide by left hand standards. My Guardian and shown me the God of the Draconians before they fell from grace and ended up in this Universe. It was literally a star a hundred times the size of a star like Beatlegeuse. This is where the whole El (Sun God) idea came from in the first place, in my opinion. But then again, what I'm explaining is just from my own experience. This is why I started googling after I ran into a brick wall with the Bible. I then found myself on a site like this in 2010, and that's where my journey started in understanding the Occult.

I'm going to reread what you wrote and write a bit more concerning your questions. It's just tedious having to write on a phone and I apologize for that.

Comment by SL on November 21, 2018 at 8:37am

Draconians seem to hide in the shadows

Yes, been wondering about this since I read it here again and from others in the past. But it is In the West as evil.  In the East it is an auspicious symbol. I tend to think it is too much indoctrination of the west. There are texts older than the bible that have way more merit.

The East has dragons as water beings and the west has them as fire.

The dragon is also related to Mago/Creator/Goddess

In J.K. Rowlings new movie, she reveals that Voldemorts pet snake Nagini is an Asian woman.. Who happened to be played by a Korean woman.  FFS, the East a pet of the West?

If we are to apply Occams Razor maybe they hide in the shadows because of the West.

Comment by SL on November 19, 2018 at 11:44am

I guess it can relate on when I do soul retrieval like how Jet Li becomes stronger after each kill. That movie seems to fit in with what I do, not necessarily killing, but finding where my soul had been split in whatever system and I find it all began where the Draconians had come from before landing in Draco.

How do you know? Through meditations or visions? Soul origin in Draco?

Not killing but merging as in eating and digesting?

I don't understand it really but it made me recall this by Carl Jung.  Maybe it helps you.

“As long as you are not conscious of your self you can live; but if you become conscious of your self you fall from one grave into another. All your rebirths could ultimately make you sick. The Buddha therefore finally gave up on rebirth, for he had had enough of crawling through all human and animal forms.
After all the rebirths you still remain the lion crawling on the earth, the Chameleon, a caricature, one prone to changing colors, a crawling shimmering lizard, but precisely not a lion, whose nature is related to the sun, who draws his power from within himself who does not crawl around in the protective colors of the environment, and who does not defend himself by going into hiding.
I recognized the chameleon and no longer want to crawl on the earth and change colors and be reborn; instead I want to exist from my own force, like the sun which gives light and does not suck light.

That belongs to the earth. I recall my solar nature and would like to rush to my rising. But ruins stand in my way They say: 'With regard to men you should be this or that.' My chameleonesque skin shudders.
They obtrude upon me and want to color me. But that should no longer be. Neither good nor evil shall be my masters. I push them aside, the laughable survivors, and go on my way again, which leads me to the East. The quarreling powers that for so long stood between me and myself lie behind me.” 

― C.G. Jung, The Red Book: Liber Novus

Comment by SL on November 19, 2018 at 11:37am

Thanks for sharing and answering.  For me this is turning out to be very interesting discussion exceeding expectations.

What do you mean by becoming your own God? To some it means ruling over people and having followers/worshippers (they form cults). 

Others it can mean creating your own reality and or  having achieved awakening/enlightenment.

For me being your own God means worshiping the self, not in selfish way. To have self love, self respect and healthy self image, means that I can see myself in others and through others.

Microcosms within macrocosm what we do to the self or others as one in the whole we do to all of creation. Same as what you said "expanding on understanding everything as a whole"

To some that may sound new agey maybe, but I do think there is way more to cause and effect of energy and wavelengths that people realize.

I don't understand what you mean by becoming one of the Elohim.

Next question- what do you think Lucifer is guilty of? The bible being the primary source for Lucifer's history? Or have you looked into the devil story of other religions.

It all depends on what God they rebelled against?  The god of this world? 

The god of this world wanting to be worshiped by their own creation is not a sane god.  What sane superior being needs to be worshiped by lower beings? It is like humans wanting to be worshiped by roaches.

At the same time this god makes it forbidden to eat from the tree of knowledge and is asking to serve the humans under his command without question.

My point is that perhaps not kneeling was the right thing to do , since it implied refusal to serve humans under ignorant sub par conditions. 

So Prometheus decided to make man stand upright as the gods did give them fire. Prometheus loved man more then the Olympian gods.

Comment by Quingu on November 16, 2018 at 11:01am

You basically read my mind concerning,

"They were destroyed or destroyed themselves by multiverse hopping and or conquering?. In order to survive in any part of the multiverse they combined with humans so that they could still exist? DNA survival?"

I do agree with being at the bottom of the multiverse, and it seems as if certain entities do not us want ascend knowing the lessons learned on Earth have great benefits in expanding on understanding everything as a whole. This concerns on becoming your own God. I find that the whole experience on Earth is to become one of the Elohim that these entities such as Enlil did not want us to accomplish.

It's interesting you bring up about how kneeling was in a way of symbolically serving humans and in my opinion, that makes sense. I find with associating with the Draconians, regardless of what I believe, I find I do my best to lend a helping hand to my fellow man. But yes, it's all about perspective and you're right, most Christian's do not turn the other cheek. That is why I looked into other beliefs because I ran into a brick wall concerning the Bible. This is why I practice the left hand path, understanding that the decisions I make have to so with self preservation without having to rely on another diety for salvation. 

It took me a minute but I do remember that movie with Jet Li. It's been almost 20 years since that movie came out but it's funny how it applies. I guess it can relate on when I do soul retrieval like how Jet Li becomes stronger after each kill. That movie seems to fit in with what I do, not necessarily killing, but finding where my soul had been split in whatever system and I find it all began where the Draconians had come from before landing in Draco. Regardless of what I'm affiliated with, whether that be the Zeta Reticulins, the Sirians, the Orion's, or even the Arcturians, it all started for me before when the Draconians came to the system. You could even say after the big bang, after Lucifer's fall, the system collapsed, and Iblis had no recollection of what had just happened when he fell. Maybe if he was given s briefing before hand from that "God" that it would of been paradise on Earth if he had just knelt, I'm pretty sure he would've went along with it. But it didn't happen like that, and it's as if he was blindsided. Someone on a forum explained that Lucifer wasn't at fault because before incarnating on this system, He had said,

"Do not worship anything but Me."

But that's the thing, there's no definite on why the 1/3rd had rebelled other than the fact that they were rebelling against God. I'm just trying to connect whatever dots I can in trying to understand why these Draconians seem to hide in the shadows instead of being engulfed in light. Basically, the most appropriate Faith that describes what I feel is Taoism. Light cannot exist without dark. In other words, the Draconian systems abide by the Dark, while other races go along with what's light. Hence why all together, it became under one system, eventually.

Comment by SL on November 16, 2018 at 10:17am

 "But yes, I do think Universes eventually collapse and become one."

Ok this is what I like to think as well , it all expands then collapses or folds into itself.  Sort of like the the Torus. This is better than Stephen Hawking fatalistic theory where it all just fades into blackness.

I suggest a sci fi movie called The One - ("A rogue Multiverse agent goes on a manhunt for versions of himself, getting stronger with each kill. With only one version remaining, he races against the clock to finish him and become "The One."")

Sounds related to the Draconians as you describe a quest for dominance or power. Except if they have to create the Draconians don't exist in other parts of the multiverse then. 

They were destroyed or destroyed themselves by multiverse hopping and or conquering?. In order to survive in any part of the multiverse they combined with humans so that they could still exist? DNA survival?

Karmic laws of this universe, who or what would those laws be for? Laws for the humans?

It feels like this piece of the multiverse we are in is the memory dump being at the bottom of the multiverse. Since there are so many faiths, gods, theories, conflicts etc going on that cause so much chaos and confusion since forever

The devil would not kneel to Adam is the same as the stories of Lilith refusing to be inferior to Adam. Many Christians of today do not turn the other cheek.

Although kneeling represents in service to the person or object that is before the kneeler. Kneeling for prayer, the queen knights a man kneeling before her and kneeling before king or queen, is to say that person is in service to.  Kneeling to humans could mean in service to humans by helping humans. 

Rather than creating a slave race to serve the gods, gods should be serving the creations.  Ironically though humans are kept in the dark, requesting devil or Lilith to kneel in this context means stay in the "dark" with them.

Refusing the god that requires keeping humans from evolving and needs almighty worship was refusing service to that god?

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